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Trustees Explore Roundabout at Heathcote Five Corners

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trafficircleOn Monday August 8, the Scarsdale Village Municipal Services Committee met to review and discuss the results of the second phase of a study conducted by Creighton Manning Engineers on the feasibility of a roundabout at the Heathcote Five Corners.

During the first phase of this study, Creighton Manning engineers reviewed 5-legged roundabouts in New York State in order to show how intersections similar to the one at the Heathcote Five Corners benefit from a single-lane roundabout as opposed to traffic lights at each leg.

Phase two of this study, which was the focus of Monday’s meeting, culminated in a presentation given by Jeff Pangburn and Stephan Godlewski, consultants from the Creighton Manning firm. Their presentation included a detailed mapping of the existing intersection at the Heathcote Five Corners, a preliminary layout of what the roundabout might look like, statistics that suggest how a roundabout would improve the intersection, and an initial cost estimate of the project at large.

Pangburn began the presentation by explaining why a roundabout would be a more favorable type of intersection in the first place. He cited an improvement in pedestrian safety, a reduction in the severity of potential accidents, an increase in traffic flow, a decrease in vehicular speeds, and a decline in carbon emissions as potential benefits.

The presentation was particularly useful in providing a visual image of the roundabout. The key features of the roundabout would include a landscaped center island, truck aprons, raised pedestrian islands, roadway lighting, and additional signage. The virtual image created by the Creighton Manning firm certainly suggests that such a project would improve the existing intersection at least from an aesthetic standpoint.

In addition to providing a visual image, the consultants presented some hard facts collected from past studies. The results of these studies indicate a 35% reduction in automobile accidents and a 45% reduction in pedestrian accidents as a result of the implementation of a roundabout at intersections similar to the one that exists at the Heathcote Five Corners. In a study of a roundabout in Glens Falls, NY, which has the same characteristics as the Five Corners in terms of the type of intersection, traffic delay was cut by 20%, and traffic volumes decreased dramatically. The improvement was so remarkable that before the intersection was transformed, only 31% of Glens Falls residents were in favor of the roundabout, whereas after the transformation, 63% were in favor.

Unfortunately, the potential benefits of a roundabout at the Heathcote Five Corners come at a high price. The projected cost of creating this new intersection is estimated at $1.9 million before right of way acquisitions are even considered.

Beyond the monetary costs of the project, many residents at Monday’s meeting voiced their concerns about the physical price they and others would have to pay if the roundabout is in fact constructed. The roundabout is a successful form of intersection if drivers yield when they are signaled to yield. However, many residents alluded to the fact that Scarsdale drivers are not known to be the most considerate group of individuals on the road. To this extent, aggressive driving could result in an increase in number of accidents at this intersection, which would entirely defeat the purpose of creating a roundabout in the first place.

Of course, like any big decision, the Municipal Services Committee will have to weigh the pros and cons of creating a roundabout in order to determine whether or not it will be worth constructing. Monday’s meeting was the first of many future discussions regarding what could be one of the most monumental municipal changes the village of Scarsdale has seen in decades.

shelbyrokitoShelby Rokito recently graduated Scarsdale High School, and will be attending Cornell University in the fall as a Communication major in the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences. She loves writing, cooking, and playing with her dog.

 

 

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written by Dean, August 12, 2011
Lets also discuss how a traffic roundabout would affect local business at the Five Corners. Since parking in front of local businesses would have to be removed to allow traffic flow I believe local business would suffer. The corners have been this way for such a long time, over 40 years, why now? Local business need to be invited to voice concerns that would directly effect them and the community.
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written by Phil, August 12, 2011

The 5 corners is a problem for traffic and slows everyone schedule. The roundabout is a wonderfull solution and would benefit everyone once in place. Another one is needed also at the bottom of Heathcote Road with Crane. That would make the connection between Scarsdale neighborhoods a better reality and change everyone's life for the best.

Whatever the cost, the benefits are immeasurable.

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written by aKaSdale, August 11, 2011
Aside from the cost....While a roundabout sounds lovely, in theory, and while it works swimmingly in areas such as Glens Falls and states such as Massachusetts, I'm wondering if the consultants are familiar with Scarsdale drivers.......I'm not sure that a roundabout, which requires y-i-e-l-d-I-n-g, will work in a town, which for the most part is filled with a community of people with little to no patience. A roundabout requires drivers to think of others, and not just themselves......hmmmm....
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written by Heathcote Resident, August 11, 2011
First, I'd like to start out by complimenting Shelby on a nicely written and clear article. Good luck at Cornell.

Next, I think a roundabout would work well in Heathcote and make an unpleasant intersection much more tolerable.. Although, I think $2M is WAY too much to spend.

What about sensors in the street to determine when to change the lights?
What about left turn signals for some of the more difficult turns such as going from Heathcote Rd to Palmer or from Palmer to Weaver or from Wilmot to Heathcote.

There has got to be a more economical solution to this. I certainly hope the Municipal committee can find a lower cost solution.
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written by Taxpayer, August 11, 2011
We do not have enough money for schools and class sizes are increasing. Yet Scarsdale is spending money on the feasibility of a roundabout. Am I missing something here?! Isn't the price tag alone a reason to stop any further studies. If there is extra money in our budget, I'm quite sure there is a better way of spending it then wasting more time and money on a roundabout that will never happen. Neighbors will fight it and land it too expensive for the town to purchase. Move on to more important issues.
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written by quaker ridge bobby, August 11, 2011
How much are the consultants beinb paid? The situation is changing at 5 Corners. We are building a brand new 10,000 square foot building, rerouting trafiic and allowing new construction on Weaver Street as well as on top of the restaurant. My opionion traffic will be worse, more pedestrians and with a roundabout more pedestrian accidents as there will be more people using hte intersection.

The only way to stop the traffic problem is to stop the development creating more utilization. But it is too late for that. Therefore my question, did the consultants do their study with the current building and population or with the new construction that is taking place? In other words, is their report still relevant?
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written by perplexed and concerned, August 10, 2011
Since first hearing about this project, I have been perplexed and concerned, most notably by the slow progress and now the preposterous price tag.

I am not a traffic engineer, but often times as I approach the five corners, I imagine a computer-controlled traffic system that thoroughly manages the five-corners flow of traffic. I think to myself, the town could easily erect a newer, modern traffic signal system. After all, hasn't this been done countless times already across our great nation in much busier cities? I took my vision one step further as I dared to dream: this new traffic system could even allow the police to bypass its schedule in the event of emergencies, e.g. from our volunteer ambulance corp. or during rush hour.

But today we get the opposite: A dragged out analysis proposing a poor solution that will force drives to decide who gets the right of way at a busy, complicated and unsupervised intersection, with an unjustifiable price tag. Why on earth would it cost 2 million dollars to put up a few new sidewalks and signs?

Perhaps a roundabout could work, but so far I'm just not convinced it would work better than what we already have.
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written by UnCorkedGlensFalls, August 09, 2011
We opened our store on Glen Street, 1/2 block north of the Glens Falls intersection, one year before roundabout construction. We have witnessed a welcome increase in both vehicle and pedestrian traffic. It has eliminated the routine "stacking" of vehicles in afternoon traffic, and pedestrians may now cross our streets with much more confidence.
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written by Sane in Scarsdale, August 09, 2011
This article shows how pathetic Scarsdale is. What a bunch of self righteous individuals to think that because we are different what works elsewhere will not work here.

The only real question is "is this a sufficiently serious problem to spend circa $2 million on?" If the answer is yes then do it already.

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